In Divergent by Veronica Roth, at the end, Tris, Tobias, Caleb, Marcus and Peter are on the train to the Amity headquarters. A lot of the Abnegation refugees are already at the Amity headquarters. Drew, Molly, Myra and Edward are factionless. Jeanine, Eric and the other Erudite are trying to regroup. There is a quote in the book that catches my attention, "Eric called Al's suicide brave, and he was wrong. My mother's death was brave. I remember how calm she was, how determined. It isn't just brave that she died for me; it is brave that she did it without announcing it, without hesitation, and without appearing to consider another option".
This quote is saying that Tris's mom died for someone which is...Tris! But if you were to really think about Al's death, it was for himself. You can't really say who he is protecting, therefore it can't really be for anyone. But I maybe wrong about that. But Al probably just wanted to escape the world of factions and pain. Tris's mom was playing her role of a mom by protecting her daughter. It was a little creepy to me when she was calm about it, but it was for her daughter.
It caught my eye because Al died long before this was mentioned. Then it is brought up again in a common comparison. My book club discussing about this one day so it was brought up again! I am glad it was brought up again to be compared with Tris's mom's death. I was able to conclude in my opinion that Al's death wasn't brave.
In conclusion, the book ending with suspense. Especially with the characters all over the place! I wonder what will happen in Insurgent because of all this suspense! Hopefully, Tris will be find happiness to overcome her loss.
Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Tuesday, December 18, 2012
In divergent a huge topic came up. That topic is fear. it really interested me when Four said "But becoming fearless isn't the point. That's impossible. It's learning how to control your fear, and how to be free from it, that's the point." This really made me think because I never thought about it that way. I used to think that once I got over my fear, I would become fearless until another fear replaced it. But now that I think about it, what Four said is correct.
When I have a fear, I become really scared about it. When I get over that fear, I'm
not that scared about it anymore and when I'm reminded of that fear or when I encounter it, I don't end up freaking out about it like I probably would have done before because I already controlled my fear so I know how to react to it. I think that is really the only way to solve your fears. By controlling it because I think that you never are able to get rid of a fear because your mind has already gotten to know the fear as a bad thing so whenever you encounter that fear anywhere, you still might be a little scared when you see it. For example, last year during spring break me, my brother and our friend were robbed. For a while I was kind of scared to go outside because the robbery happened only two blocks away from my house and I was scared that the 3 guys that robbed us would come back to harm us because we had them arrested. So me, my brother and my friend layed low for a while. After a while I stop being scared and was able to go outside and do things again but til this day I still don't step foot in that school playground anymore because I'm a little nervous that they might come back.
I think that Beatrice has controlled one of her fears. I think that fear is that she's scared to be alone. Earlier in the book she said she would rather be dead than factionless because she wants to fit in with people. Also, when she was going through the simulation with the crows, I think the main reason she was scared was because she was alone and had no one there and she must have felt that she needed people there to help her. But as the story goes on I think that Beatrice becomes more independent and she can spend more time alone than she could have before. I think its a good thing that she becomes independent because I think that when your alone, you can think better and I think Beatrice just needs some time to think.
When I have a fear, I become really scared about it. When I get over that fear, I'm
not that scared about it anymore and when I'm reminded of that fear or when I encounter it, I don't end up freaking out about it like I probably would have done before because I already controlled my fear so I know how to react to it. I think that is really the only way to solve your fears. By controlling it because I think that you never are able to get rid of a fear because your mind has already gotten to know the fear as a bad thing so whenever you encounter that fear anywhere, you still might be a little scared when you see it. For example, last year during spring break me, my brother and our friend were robbed. For a while I was kind of scared to go outside because the robbery happened only two blocks away from my house and I was scared that the 3 guys that robbed us would come back to harm us because we had them arrested. So me, my brother and my friend layed low for a while. After a while I stop being scared and was able to go outside and do things again but til this day I still don't step foot in that school playground anymore because I'm a little nervous that they might come back.
I think that Beatrice has controlled one of her fears. I think that fear is that she's scared to be alone. Earlier in the book she said she would rather be dead than factionless because she wants to fit in with people. Also, when she was going through the simulation with the crows, I think the main reason she was scared was because she was alone and had no one there and she must have felt that she needed people there to help her. But as the story goes on I think that Beatrice becomes more independent and she can spend more time alone than she could have before. I think its a good thing that she becomes independent because I think that when your alone, you can think better and I think Beatrice just needs some time to think.
The topic of fear in divergent
Fear has so many different meanings in divergent. Each person has thier own definition of fear. Some people think that fear is just something that is in your head.people think that fear is something that you can overcome. Some people think that fear never leaves you but it lessens. I think that fear is just a thought that is created in your head , but the danger is real. I honestly think fear is bad and we should get rid of it.
I think that fear is bad. It holds a lot of people back from a lot of different things. For example phobias. If you're scared of heights then it would hold you back from an airplane or sky diving. A lot if people can't do things.
People believe that you can overcome fear. I disagree but I agree. I think that fear is an aspect we all have whether we like it or not, it just may be less noticeable. Yet maybe you can over come a fear by facing it. Over coming the fear is not always the end result but it is a possible result that isn't rare.
When people are scared of something I think that it is something created by choice by the person. The danger is real most likely. Like fear of heights. There is danger of the heights but fearing it is just a choice. Like fear of swimming and such. Overall I think that people should be scared of too many things without a danger being behind it. But it is still a thought that the person creates.
I think that fear is bad. It holds a lot of people back from a lot of different things. For example phobias. If you're scared of heights then it would hold you back from an airplane or sky diving. A lot if people can't do things.
People believe that you can overcome fear. I disagree but I agree. I think that fear is an aspect we all have whether we like it or not, it just may be less noticeable. Yet maybe you can over come a fear by facing it. Over coming the fear is not always the end result but it is a possible result that isn't rare.
When people are scared of something I think that it is something created by choice by the person. The danger is real most likely. Like fear of heights. There is danger of the heights but fearing it is just a choice. Like fear of swimming and such. Overall I think that people should be scared of too many things without a danger being behind it. But it is still a thought that the person creates.
Faction Stereotypes
In the book Divergent, everyone is separated by what people think will be their finest quality. But because these people are separated, they begin to think different things about each other. Abnegation is thought of as goody two shoes, and Dauntless is thought of as crazy and cocky nut-jobs. Some people, like Jeanine try and support these wayward ways of thinking about each other. I noticed that throughout the book different faction stereotypes, or things people expect from certain factions, keep showing up.
Abnegation is all about selflessness. For people in the other factions, including Abnegation, it is unusual for a Abnegation-born to transfer to Dauntless, and that is because of Abnegation stereotypes. On page 246 when Tris is getting another tattoo, her friend Will calls her on it. People from Abnegation are called Stiff in other factions as an insult, because Abnegation have very stiff and strict ways of life. Will says, "I can't believe you got another tattoo," and Tris responds, "Why? Because I'm a Stiff?" It's hard to tell if Tris took this as an insult of not, but she still reacted to the stereotype of 'stiffs'.
On page 359 Jeanine is interrogating Tris, trying to find evidence of Divergence. Tris has to lie and become the stereotype-Dauntless person the other factions expect from them. The book quotes, "The other factions see the Dauntless a certain way. Brash, aggressive, impulsive. Cocky. I should be what she expects." Jeanine isn't the only one who expects that from Dauntless, according to Tris.
Some people seem to think being Divergent is like being diseased. You need to be contained and tested, until it is completely out of your system. On page 242 Tris' mom is telling her about being Divergent. Tris' mom says, "We can't be confined to one way of thinking, and that terrifies our leaders." Divergent people don't have many stereotypes because they don't hang around long enough for them to develop, but on page 429 it is said that Abnegation houses/ produces the most Divergent people. I think that is connected to the Abnegation stereotypes and how the Divergent work and think.
Abnegation members are the most selfless of any other faction. People who are Divergent can't be forced to think one way. Four tells Tris that when she is acting selfless, she is at her bravest. But that isn't a stereotype; that's all Tris.
Abnegation is all about selflessness. For people in the other factions, including Abnegation, it is unusual for a Abnegation-born to transfer to Dauntless, and that is because of Abnegation stereotypes. On page 246 when Tris is getting another tattoo, her friend Will calls her on it. People from Abnegation are called Stiff in other factions as an insult, because Abnegation have very stiff and strict ways of life. Will says, "I can't believe you got another tattoo," and Tris responds, "Why? Because I'm a Stiff?" It's hard to tell if Tris took this as an insult of not, but she still reacted to the stereotype of 'stiffs'.
On page 359 Jeanine is interrogating Tris, trying to find evidence of Divergence. Tris has to lie and become the stereotype-Dauntless person the other factions expect from them. The book quotes, "The other factions see the Dauntless a certain way. Brash, aggressive, impulsive. Cocky. I should be what she expects." Jeanine isn't the only one who expects that from Dauntless, according to Tris.
Some people seem to think being Divergent is like being diseased. You need to be contained and tested, until it is completely out of your system. On page 242 Tris' mom is telling her about being Divergent. Tris' mom says, "We can't be confined to one way of thinking, and that terrifies our leaders." Divergent people don't have many stereotypes because they don't hang around long enough for them to develop, but on page 429 it is said that Abnegation houses/ produces the most Divergent people. I think that is connected to the Abnegation stereotypes and how the Divergent work and think.
Abnegation members are the most selfless of any other faction. People who are Divergent can't be forced to think one way. Four tells Tris that when she is acting selfless, she is at her bravest. But that isn't a stereotype; that's all Tris.
Faction or Family?
Molly Ellrodt
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ELA/ Ms.Robbins
Reading Response- (i only read to page 454 when i wrote this response)
At this ending point in the book, war has broke out. The Dauntless are turned into robot soldiers. They are completely "brain-dead and obedient" and un-aware that they were turned into soldiers to fight against Abnegation. Because Tris is Divergent, she is not able to be taken control over and she dos not become brain-dead. When her boyfriend is captured and taken away, when she is forced to shoot one of her closest friends, and when she loses her other best friend to the Dauntless leaders who make her brain-dead, when she loses someone she is falling for, she is forced to regain herself and find her family to try and stop the war. As i read on through the end of the book, I realize that Tris is losing everything she gained through Dauntless. Why does the author chose for Tris to reunite with her family but lose all her friends from Dauntless?
In the beginning of the book, when Tris choses Dauntless, I think it was because she wanted something different. She was a brave girl from the beginning and she wanted to try something new. She new she was special and she felt that Dauntless might be a good fit for her. However, when she choses to switch factions, she makes the choice to say goodbye to her family and friends and everyone she knows. I think it was a bold move to make to switch factions but very scry for Beatrice (Tris).
Tris makes a lot of knew friends in Dauntless and she enjoys her time there even when it's hard. However, throughout the entire book her family is mentioned. Whether it's one of her fears in the simulations to have to face the decision of killing her family or killing herself, or when her mother visits on visiting day, or when she goes to Erudite to find her brother. Overall, I don't think she truly ever loses her family. She forgets about them when she's focused on Dauntless work but, she never loses them. I think from the beginning of the book, when Tris leaves her family for dauntless, I knew they wouldn't be gone forever. They were a big part of her life and she couldn't just say goodbye to them forever.
All in all, I think one reason that Tris loses her friends from Dauntless, is because the ones closest to her are the most important. I can' wait to read the ending of the book to see how everything works out for Tris. Will she ever find Four or Christina again? Even though her mother has died, will she become close with the rest of her family again? Will she be able to shut down the simulations that are controlling the minds of all the Dauntless people? Not everything has worked out perfectly for Tris throughout the book so i wonder if the ending will be happy? ( After reading the end of the book, I realize some of the things I wrote wouldn't apply anymore ((like her losing Four)))
I really loved this book and recommend it to anyone who liked the hunger games post U.S.A theme. This was a great book and i can't wait to read the second one!
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ELA/ Ms.Robbins
Reading Response- (i only read to page 454 when i wrote this response)
At this ending point in the book, war has broke out. The Dauntless are turned into robot soldiers. They are completely "brain-dead and obedient" and un-aware that they were turned into soldiers to fight against Abnegation. Because Tris is Divergent, she is not able to be taken control over and she dos not become brain-dead. When her boyfriend is captured and taken away, when she is forced to shoot one of her closest friends, and when she loses her other best friend to the Dauntless leaders who make her brain-dead, when she loses someone she is falling for, she is forced to regain herself and find her family to try and stop the war. As i read on through the end of the book, I realize that Tris is losing everything she gained through Dauntless. Why does the author chose for Tris to reunite with her family but lose all her friends from Dauntless?
In the beginning of the book, when Tris choses Dauntless, I think it was because she wanted something different. She was a brave girl from the beginning and she wanted to try something new. She new she was special and she felt that Dauntless might be a good fit for her. However, when she choses to switch factions, she makes the choice to say goodbye to her family and friends and everyone she knows. I think it was a bold move to make to switch factions but very scry for Beatrice (Tris).
Tris makes a lot of knew friends in Dauntless and she enjoys her time there even when it's hard. However, throughout the entire book her family is mentioned. Whether it's one of her fears in the simulations to have to face the decision of killing her family or killing herself, or when her mother visits on visiting day, or when she goes to Erudite to find her brother. Overall, I don't think she truly ever loses her family. She forgets about them when she's focused on Dauntless work but, she never loses them. I think from the beginning of the book, when Tris leaves her family for dauntless, I knew they wouldn't be gone forever. They were a big part of her life and she couldn't just say goodbye to them forever.
All in all, I think one reason that Tris loses her friends from Dauntless, is because the ones closest to her are the most important. I can' wait to read the ending of the book to see how everything works out for Tris. Will she ever find Four or Christina again? Even though her mother has died, will she become close with the rest of her family again? Will she be able to shut down the simulations that are controlling the minds of all the Dauntless people? Not everything has worked out perfectly for Tris throughout the book so i wonder if the ending will be happy? ( After reading the end of the book, I realize some of the things I wrote wouldn't apply anymore ((like her losing Four)))
I really loved this book and recommend it to anyone who liked the hunger games post U.S.A theme. This was a great book and i can't wait to read the second one!
Divergent finished
In Divergent, things are a lot different than things are in America nowadays. In the beginning of the book I thought that the government wouldn't have any problems but that wasn't the case. In the end of the book there is an attack. The Erudite and Dauntless attacked the government leaders in Abnegation. This angers me as a reader because it didn't seem like Abnegation did anything wrong. And worst of all it seemed like this was a perfect government. Everyone goes to a place that fits their personality. But the leaders of Erudite and Dauntless got selfish, and power hungry.
I thought that the way the government worked was fine. Everyone goes where they fit in most, everyone has a better life. But the Erudite and Dauntless leaders got greedy and decided to take over the government as well as destroy Abnegation.
I think it's wrong to ask for more and more when you already have something great. The government was set up perfectly. Leaders from Abnegation, chosen because of their known selflessness, lead as they see fit. I don't think there was any reason to change that.
And because of what the Erudite and Dauntless did, Abnegation was attacked. The only reason Beatrice wasn't being mind-controlled is because she is divergent. But being divergent doesn't really make you that different. In the book they make it seem like it does but it doesn't. They make a big deal out of it but she made her choice. And in the end being divergent went well.
In conclusion I think it was for the factions of Dauntless and Erudite to team up against Abnegation because they didn't like the job they were doing. Their whole government was built to prevent war and keep the peace so the least they could do is talk it out first and try to reach a compromise.
What is so bad about fear ?
In the book " Divergent " by Veronica Roth fear to me is one of the biggest topics to think about because it is talk about a lot in the book and also in the world . Fear is an emotion that causes feeling of dread ; an emotion that someone is afraid of. I think fear has a different meaning to everyone because it might mean one thing to me but it could mean the whole opposite to you .
The quote "face your fears" is an untrue fact because I don't think that anyone should do something they are afraid of . For example on page 237 it says " cowardice is how you decide to be in real life " . This quote means a lot to mean because it states the truth cowardice is what you want to do .
And on the page 230 the quote " to be human is to have fear " this quote is also meaningful because it also states the truth there is not on person in the world who doesn't have a fear . Fear is a thing every single person has .
This connects to the real world because people in the world try to hid there fears and not try to overcome them but I don't understand why people would want to hid there fears , I think showing the world your fear is a good thing because it makes everyone see who the real you is and how you live every day ! Do you agree or disagree ?
The quote "face your fears" is an untrue fact because I don't think that anyone should do something they are afraid of . For example on page 237 it says " cowardice is how you decide to be in real life " . This quote means a lot to mean because it states the truth cowardice is what you want to do .
And on the page 230 the quote " to be human is to have fear " this quote is also meaningful because it also states the truth there is not on person in the world who doesn't have a fear . Fear is a thing every single person has .
This connects to the real world because people in the world try to hid there fears and not try to overcome them but I don't understand why people would want to hid there fears , I think showing the world your fear is a good thing because it makes everyone see who the real you is and how you live every day ! Do you agree or disagree ?
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